This episode unpacks the key types of loyalty communications, from Lifecycle to Operational and Targeted, and their role in engaging customers. Featuring insights from loyalty expert Mark and a case study on yuu Rewards, we discuss communication gaps, actionable strategies, and how marketing journeys have evolved to reinvigorate loyalty programs.
Ms Chan
Welcome to Loyalty Unlocked! An AI-driven podcast that takes you behind the scenes of one of the most ambitious and successful coalition loyalty programmes ever launched. yuu Rewards in Hong Kong!
Ms Chan
This is the first episode so feel free to give us feedback on what we can improve and what more you'd like to hear about. For full transparency, the voices and script you hear within this podcast are totally AI generated and are based on chapters from the forthcoming book on loyalty marketing by my co-host, Mark Sage.
Ms Chan
Alright, let's dive right in. Mark, youâve described marketing communications as the âfuelâ for loyalty programs, and honestly, that analogy really stuck with me. But, why do you think comms so often get overlooked in favor of, you know, points or rewards?
Mark Sage
Itâs a good question, and one Iâve seen play out far too often. I think itâs because mechanics like rewards or points are tangible. Theyâre easier to measure and definitely easier to pitch in a boardroom. Communications, on the other hand though feel softer and almost invisible. But hereâs the reality: a loyalty program without proper communication, no matter how great the rewards structure, just doesn't move forwards. Itâs likeâyou wouldnât build a car and forget to add fuel, right?
Ms Chan
Right, youâre not going anywhere without that fuel.
Mark Sage
Exactly. And Iâve learned this lesson the hard way. When we were designing yuu Rewards, we focused heavily on getting the loyalty mechanics rightâthe points, the offers, the app, the economics. But, honestly, the comms? They were a bit of an afterthought initially. We were so focused on getting the main programme elements up and running, the overall loyalty marketing communications had to take a back seat initially.
Ms Chan
Wait, so youâre saying even in a project as massive as yuu Rewards, the communication strategy wasnât front and center?
Mark Sage
Youâd be surprised. I mean, yuu Rewards was a coalition program with more than 10 brands involvedâitâs now the biggest consumer platform in Hong Kong. But back in early 2019, we were focused on the mechanics that needed to be built, integrated and tested. It takes effort and time to build something new. Comms though tend to leverage existing systems - so whilst you're implementing the marketing automation tools, you're not yet really thinking about what goes into them.
Mark Sage
So when we first started mapping out marketing journeys, we hired an agency to help us. Honestly, their initial strategy felt like something we couldâve brainstormed on a whiteboard ourselves. It was cookie cutter stuff with welcome journeys, nurture, redemption emails, that kind of thing. Neat and functional, but uninspired.
Ms Chan
So, what did you do? Did you end up reworking it?
Mark Sage
We did. A couple months later, we had another go at it internally. But to be fair, even then, we didnât stray far from the industry rulebook. And thatâs the core challengeâeveryone follows the same formula: lifecycle comms triggered by member behaviors, the standard âearn and burnâ journey. Itâs fine, but itâs not enough. I feel we missed opportunities as a result.
Ms Chan
Like what, specifically?
Mark Sage
Well, for starters, I feel we leaned too heavily on foundational communicationsâthings like welcome emails, redemption reminders, or birthday greetings. These are useful, sure, but theyâre not what builds loyalty. Let me give you an example. One of the most valuable communications we implemented was operationalânot marketingâbut operational. When members earned points, theyâd immediately get a push notification saying, âYouâve just earned 1000 points!â That simple instant feedbackâgiving them that little dopamine hitâwas far more effective at driving engagement than most of our lifecycle emails.
Ms Chan
Ah, so tying communication to real-time actions created that connection?
Mark Sage
Exactly. It reinforced the behavioral loopâpurchase, reward, repeat. But we didnât double down on this approach as much as we could have. Looking back, there was a gap in our strategy. We followed the playbookâemails! campaigns!âbut didnât challenge it enough. For example, one thing the Aimia â7 Campaignsâ white paper discussed was making your brand part of a memberâs daily routine. Surprisingly, we didnât emphasize that as much in yuuâs early comms.
Ms Chan
So, if you were doing it again todayâ
Mark Sage
âIâd rethink how we approached all communication. Marketing messages arenât just about announcements or offers. They need connect with all customers, not just regular ones, and they need to build the brand, not simply trade driving. But this is something we'll unpack in more detail in a later podcast. For now, there is more we need to discuss around the traditional framework as I feel there is a more strategic way to implement it.
Ms Chan
Alright, Iâm intrigued. Letâs break that standard framework down next and see where it really worksâand where it may fall flat.
Ms Chan
Alright, Mark, letâs break it down. Youâve got this standard loyalty communication frameworkâwhat are the main types of communications weâre really talking about here?
Mark Sage
Well, broadly speaking, there are four core types: Lifecycle , Operational , Targeted, and Campaign Communications. Each plays a distinct role, and their effectiveness really depends on how you use them. Letâs start with Lifecycle Communications since theyâre kind of the foundation for most programs.
Ms Chan
Right, so these are things like onboarding emails or sending reminders when customers are slowing down, right?
Mark Sage
Exactly, itâs the âLearn, Earn, Burn, Churnâ modelâwhich probably sounds familiar to anyone in loyalty marketing. Lifecycle Comms focus on getting customers onboard, nurturing them to engage early on, and trying to re-engage them if they drop off. And sure, these can be automated to run in the background, which is a major advantage.
Ms Chan
Sounds straightforward enough. But earlier you hinted that relying too heavily on Lifecycle Comms might not be the best approach. Why's that?
Mark Sage
Because theyâre only part of the picture. Donât get me wrongâtheyâre necessary. I mean, you need those foundational elements like welcome journeys and lapsed member campaigns. But here's the problem: lifecycle strategies can become more of a tick-the-box exercise. They tend to be reactive rather than proactive. For instance, most lifecycle emails target lapsing customers with generic nudgesââHey, come back!ââbut they struggle to truly engage broader behaviors in a meaningful way.
Ms Chan
So theyâre more about maintaining the status quo rather than driving real growth?
Mark Sage
Exactly. And hereâs where we often fall shortâwe stop at Lifecycle Comms and fail to build out the other streams effectively. Look, Lifecycle is great for onboarding or tackling churn, but itâs not really designed to move the needle. Thatâs where Operational and Targeted Communications come in.
Ms Chan
Right. And how do Operational Communications differ? They sound a lot less glamorous.
Mark Sage
Not glamorous, no, but essentialâand hugely underestimated. Operational Comms respond directly to member actions. So, when someone earns points, redeems rewards, or unlocks a challenge, they get an immediate notification. This type of communication is reinforcement messaging. Itâs less âmarketingâ and more âmoment-driven.â It validates what the customer just did and strengthens that behavior loop.
Ms Chan
Ah, so itâs less about selling or reminding, and more about reinforcing that, hey, youâve done something great here.
Mark Sage
Exactly. And the beauty is, because itâs tied to an action they initiated, operational messages are more likely to be well-received. Real-time feedback, like a push notification saying âCongratulations, you just earned 500 points!ââthatâs what keeps people engaged. Itâs instant validation.
Ms Chan
And I guess this is where a lot of programs miss the mark?
Mark Sage
You got it! At yuu Rewards, we saw incredible engagement with those real-time operational touchpoints. Theyâre such a simple way to create small emotional hooks or âmicro momentsâ that bring members back again and again.
Ms Chan
Alright Mark, weâve explored how Operational Communications reinforce and validate customer actions. Now, letâs turn to the next piece of the puzzleâTargeted Communications. What sets these apart and makes them so critical in loyalty strategies?
Mark Sage
Targeted Communications are powerful because theyâre inherently data-driven. They arenât just about reacting to customer actions like Operational Comms; theyâre about anticipating behaviorsâessentially nudging members toward desired actions that align with business goals.
Ms Chan
Hmm, so kind of like⊠being proactive instead of reactive. Can you give an example of how they work in practice?
Mark Sage
Sure. At yuu Rewards, we used member purchase data to identify patterns. Take grocery shoppers, for instance. If someone typically only did big, weekly shops, weâd use targeted offers to encourage mid-week top-upsâthink discounts on fresh produce or ready-to-eat meals. The idea was to shift their behavior subtly but strategically.
Ms Chan
Ah, so youâre identifying opportunities in their habits and trying to fill the gaps?
Mark Sage
Exactly. And the beauty of it is that the more data you have, the more precisely you can target. Another example is cross-partner promotions. If someone primarily interacted with a single partner in the coalition program, weâd send targeted messages about other partners they hadnât explored yetâlike offering bonus points for making a purchase at a participating pharmacy or restaurant.
Ms Chan
Got it. But I imagine implementing these strategies isnât always easy, right?
Mark Sage
Thats correct. The challenge with Targeted Communications is that they donât always get the upfront attention they deserve because, on day one, thereâs minimal data to work with. Most loyalty programs focus on Lifecycle Comms as their default, and targeted strategies often take a backseat until enough data accumulates. But this delay is a missed opportunity.
Ms Chan
And do you think thatâs a mindset issue? Like people just donât think in behavioral terms?
Mark Sage
It is. Most teams approach loyalty programs through the lens of âloyalty laddersâ or lifecycle stages. Instead, we should look at customer behaviorsâwhat theyâre doing now and what we want them to do next. By aligning communications with these behaviors, we can drive real growth, not just maintain engagement.
Ms Chan
So itâs about flipping that perspective. And speaking of perspectives, looking back at your own experiences, how would you say loyalty communications have evolved since, say, 2019?
Mark Sage
Oh, theyâve definitely come a long way. Back in 2019, we were still very tethered to the traditional frameworksâwelcome emails, nurture journeys, birthday messages. Functional but limited. Since then, thereâs been a shift toward more integrated approaches.
Mark Sage
Real-time feedback mechanisms, like in-app notifications or personalized push messages and offers, have become game changers. And the use of AI to help personalize at scale? Thatâs transforming the game entirely.
Ms Chan
What challenges still remain, though? It feels like thereâs always something more to refine.
Mark Sage
Absolutely. One major challenge is breaking free from traditional thinking. Many brands are still running on autopilot, sticking to the âearn and burnâ model without questioning its limits. But another big hurdle is internalâgetting stakeholders to view communications as not simply trade driving, and loyalty channels as not simply CRM. It frankly, needs a mindset shift to make this happen and thats the topic of our next podcast!
Ms Chan
Sounds intriguing Mark and I'm really looking forward to that discussion. For the moment, if thereâs one piece of advice youâd give to someone building their loyalty program today?
Mark Sage
I'd say, donât undervalue communications. Theyâre not just a support functionâtheyâre the bridge between your program, your customers and your brand. Use them strategically, integrate them into every layer of the experience, and always think behaviour first. Thatâs how you create loyalty that lasts.
Ms Chan
I love thatâcommunications as the bridge. Alright, Mark, this has been such an insightful conversation, and Iâm sure our listeners have taken away plenty of actionable ideas. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Mark Sage
Thank you. Itâs been a pleasure.
Ms Chan
And on that note, weâll see you next time on "Loyalty Unlocked." Bye for now!
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Welcome to Loyalty Unlocked, an AI-driven podcast exploring the creation of yuu Rewards, one of the most ambitious coalition loyalty programs ever launched in Hong Kong. Through expert insights and real-world lessons, we break down the risks, strategies, and innovations behind its success. Whether youâre in marketing, loyalty, or business, tune in to uncover what it takes to build a game-changing program. Intro music by Kabbalistic Village (kabbalisticvillage.com/)
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