Everything we thought we knew about loyalty might just be wrong. For years, marketers have clung to beliefs like the 80/20 rule, the cost of acquisition vs. retention, and the idea that loyalty members are inherently more valuable. But what if these so-called "truths" are not quite what they seem to be. What if loyalty could do more? In this episode we explore how we might need to re-think what loyalty marketing means. Read more at https://medium.com/@marksage/rethinking-loyalty-myths-bbbadefbb7c5
Ms Chan
Welcome back to Loyalty Unlocked! An AI-driven podcast that takes you behind the scenes of one of the most ambitious and successful coalition loyalty programmes ever launched. yuu Rewards in Hong Kong!
Ms Chan
For full transparency, the voices and script you hear within this podcast are totally AI generated and are based on chapters from the forthcoming book on loyalty marketing by my co-host, Mark Sage.
Ms Chan
In the previous episode we discussed the standard approach to loyalty marketing communications. We'll now pick up from there to discuss what we're likely missing.
Ms Chan
Alright, so - check this out - do you know the story about Ignaz Semmelweis? Like, the guy who totally changed the way we think about washing our hands?
Mark Sage
Oh, absolutely. Semmelweis is fascinating, really. Heâs one of those unsung heroes of medical history. Back in the 19th century, he discovered that handwashing with a chlorinated solution could drastically reduce puerperal feverâ
Ms Chan
Oh, like fever during childbirth?
Mark Sage
Exactly. It was devastating back then, killing so many women. But, thanks to Semmelweis, his methods brought the mortality rate in one Vienna hospital down from, get this, 18% to 2%.
Ms Chan
Whoa, thatâs a huge change.
Mark Sage
It was. Youâd think everyone wouldâve jumped onboard, right? But instead, his ideas were rejected. People literally ignored him because his findings challenged their established beliefs. That resistance to evidence is what we now call the Semmelweis effect.
Ms Chan
Okay, hold onâso they had proof it worked, but they still said no?
Mark Sage
Yep. It was all about preserving status quo thinking. Doctors didnât want to admit that their practices might actually be harming patients. Itâs a great example of what happens when evidence clashes with entrenched beliefs.
Ms Chan
Kinda reminds me of loyalty marketing, y'know? Like this whole "20% of customers make up 80% of sales" thing. That beliefâs been out there for decades, right?
Mark Sage
It has, and itâs become one of those almost sacred truths in the loyalty industry. But hereâs the thing: itâs not entirely accurate. The research shows us that our assumptions about customer loyalty arenât as rock-solid as we thought.
Ms Chan
Oh, okay, spill, spill. What are we getting wrong?
Mark Sage
Well, take grocery loyalty programs, for exampleâa study in the Netherlands looked at shopping behaviors across 20 supermarkets and seven loyalty programs over two years. The findings were eye-opening. Even the most loyal customers gave less than halfâabout 45%âof their spending to a single brand.
Ms Chan
Wait, what? Less than 50%? I thought loyalty programs were supposed to, like, lock people in?
Mark Sage
Youâd think so. But, instead, what we're seeing is that most so-called "loyal" customers arenât exclusive to one brand. And the loyalty programs themselves? They only lifted that share of wallet by an average of just over 4 percentage points. So, the impact isnât as monumental as many marketers assume.
Ms Chan
Hmm, 4 percentage points doesnât sound like much, but, I guess, scale it up...yeah?
Mark Sage
Exactlyâit adds up when youâre dealing with millions of members. Still, the bigger takeaway here isnât just the numbersâitâs the realization that loyalty programs might be too focused on heavy buyers while overlooking the importance of lighter ones.
Ms Chan
So, weâre like, chasing whales and totally missing the schools of fish?
Mark Sage
Thatâs a great way to put it. Heavy buyers will eventually move onâlife happens. A new job, a house move, kids...you name it. But lighter buyers? They represent most of your customer base and a surprising percentage of your revenue.
Ms Chan
Wow. So instead of focusing on just retaining the big spenders...
Mark Sage
...We need to think broader. The opportunity isnât in exclusivity; itâs in inclusivity.
Mark Sage
Loyalty programs should be about creating mental availabilityâmaking sure that when someone is ready to buy, your brand comes to mind first.
Ms Chan
Thatâs kind of radical. Like, loyalty without loyalty?
Mark Sage
Itâs a rethink, for sure. And itâs why we need to move past those outdated assumptions and focus on what the data actually tells us about customer behavior.
Ms Chan
And thatâs where Byron Sharpâs ideas come in, right?
Mark Sage
Exactly. Byron Sharpâs âLaw of Buyer Moderationâ perfectly ties in hereâit shows us that heavy buyers naturally taper off over time, while lighter buyers tend to step up their purchase frequency. Itâs a reminder that buying behaviors evolve, which is why inclusivity is so crucial.
Ms Chan
Wait, so the heavy buyers donât stay loyal? Like, theyâre gonna drift off over time?
Mark Sage
Thatâs right. Think of it like this: peopleâs lives change, you know? Situations shift. A once-loyal customer who bought frequently might move to a competitor, or they just stop buying as much. Itâs not that they dislike the brandâitâs just regression to the mean.
Ms Chan
Regression to the mean...okay, so you're saying itâs kinda inevitable?
Mark Sage
It is. And thatâs why Sharp talks about broad reach being essential. If you only focus on your heavy buyers, you risk losing out on the lighter ones who might grow into heavy buyers or the non-buyers who could become new customers.
Ms Chan
Huh. So itâs likeâtrying to catch people before they slip through the cracks.
Mark Sage
Exactly. A brandâs success often depends on how wide its reach is, how effectively it connects with as many potential and current buyers as possible. Sharp highlights this with data from leading brands like Coke and Pepsi. In his book How Brands Grow, he highlights how 72% of Coke buyers also buy Pepsi?
Ms Chan
Wait, what? Thatâs likeâalmost three-quarters! So much for loyalty.
Mark Sage
Right? And this isn't exclusive to soft drinks. Itâs common across all kinds of industries, from FMCG to grocery shopping, even airlines. Consumers naturally spread their purchases across brands, and heavy buyers of any one brand are still engaging with others pretty frequently. So, focusing solely on these âloyalâ heavy buyers really misses the broader picture.
Ms Chan
Okay, so basically...loyaltyâs an illusion?
Mark Sage
Not an illusion. Loyal customers are important, but loyalty isnât as deep or exclusive as we like to think. This is why Sharp emphasizes that the goal should be mental availabilityâgetting your brand to come to mind first when someone is ready to buy.
Ms Chan
Ah... so like, being memorable instead of just trying to tie people down.
Mark Sage
Yes. Itâs about being there when they need you, not trying to own them entirely. Loyalty should be thought of as keeping your brand relevant, visible, and top-of-mindârather than cornering a market of heavy spenders and then hoping they stick around forever.
Ms Chan
Hmm, Iâm starting to see it. So, itâs not loyalty in the traditional sense...itâs more like being on their radar at the right time.
Mark Sage
Thatâs precisely it. And, as weâll see, the same thinking applies to loyalty programs themselves.
Ms Chan
So, if heavy buyers are naturally moving on, like you said, how does that play into the way loyalty programs are designed?
Mark Sage
Well, thatâs where things get interesting.
Mark Sage
Take that Dutch grocery study I mentioned earlier. Over two years, they looked at 1,909 households involved with seven loyalty programs. The average boost in share of wallet was just over 4%.
Ms Chan
Hmm... yeah, I kinda remember that. It doesnât sound massive, though.
Mark Sage
Itâs not massive, but thatâs just the thing. When scaled across millions of customers, even modest gains add up to something tangible. Still, whatâs more revealing is how these programs often focus so heavily on the biggest spenders.
Ms Chan
Okay, so theyâre treating the heavy buyers like VIPs and ignoring, what, the âlightweightsâ?
Mark Sage
Exactly. Hereâs the catchâthose lighter buyers? Theyâre a much larger group, typically making up about 80% of the customer base and driving around 50% of the revenue.
Ms Chan
Whoa, I feel like weâve been doing loyalty all wrong. Like...trying to âprotectâ the wrong group?
Mark Sage
In many cases, yes. That protect-and-retain strategy only goes so far. Eventually, even your heavy buyers will move on, whether thatâs due to life changes, new needs, or just, well, competition.
Ms Chan
Right, right. Okay, so hereâs a thoughtâwhat happens when they do come back? Like, shouldnât there be some way to kind of, I donât know, keep the door open?
Mark Sage
Thatâs a great point. Frequent flyer programs are a classic example. When someoneâs flying habits changeâmaybe because of a new job or, say, a global pandemicâtheyâre often dropped from the program entirely. No soft landing, no recognition of their past loyalty. They go from gold status to, well, nothing.
Ms Chan
Ouch. I mean, talk about a cold shoulder.
Mark Sage
Exactly. And thatâs a mistake. Even if you canât exactly keep all the perks open, acknowledging their history with the brand can make a huge difference. A little recognition goes a long way toward keeping the relationship alive.
Ms Chan
Okay, so this is where branding comes in, yeah? Like, staying in their mind even when theyâre not actively buying?
Mark Sage
Yes. Itâs about building and maintaining mental availability. Keeping your brand relevant and top-of-mind means that when customers are ready to returnâor even recommend youâyouâre the first name they think of.
Ms Chan
So, kinda like a light touch approach? Not full-on loyalty, but more like...a friendly reminder?
Mark Sage
Thatâs one way to think about it. The goal is to balance loyalty marketing strategies so that you foster long-term brand visibility and relevance, especially with lighter and lapsed buyers, not just heavy buyer trade driving.
Ms Chan
Huh, okay. So itâs less about chasing after the heavy hitters and more about, like, casting a wider net.
Ms Chan
So, Mark, with what weâve discussed, are we pretty much rethinking how loyalty marketing strategies should work?
Mark Sage
In many ways, yes. What weâre realizing now is that loyalty isnât just about protecting and retaining the heavy buyers. Itâs about broadening the scopeâusing loyalty as a gateway to connect with lighter buyers and even those who might not be buying yet.
Mark Sage
Itâs a total mindset shift.
Ms Chan
Got it. So instead of climbing this âloyalty ladder,â weâre like, building bridges or something?
Mark Sage
We are. Itâs not about getting every customer to the top rung; itâs about creating enduring relationships at every level. Itâs fostering those meaningful connections across all your buyers. Thatâs where focusing on mental availability really comes in.
Ms Chan
Right, making sure your brand is in their mind when the time comes, like you said before.
Mark Sage
And hereâs the thingâthis doesnât mean abandoning what weâre already doing in loyalty marketing today. The traditional CRM approaches. Those absolutely have their place. But weâre not stopping there. Weâre extending that thinking. Loyalty channels should be used to foster what Byron Sharp calls Category Entry Points, or CEPs. Itâs all about being relevant in those key moments when customers are deciding.
Ms Chan
Huh. So itâs like doubling down on loyalty channels, but using them in a smarter, more...diverse way?
Mark Sage
Thatâs exactly it. Loyalty communications donât have to just be transactional or performance-driven. Theyâre untapped channels for brand building. But to unlock that potential, we need to rethink how weâre delivering our messages.
Ms Chan
Gotcha. So, weâre switching gearsâfrom just loyalty-as-rewards to loyalty-as-brand-building.
Mark Sage
Thatâs a perfect way to put it. Loyalty marketing is a tool, not just for todayâs performance, but for building a stronger, more visible brand for tomorrow.
Ms Chan
Wow, this has been such an eye-opener. Honestly, I think I need to rethink everything I thought I knew about loyalty marketing. And probably wash my hands more...thanks, Semmelweis!
Mark Sage
Itâs been great digging into this with you. Loyalty is evolving, and as marketers, weâre just starting to see the bigger picture.
Ms Chan
Well, thatâs all for today, folks! Thanks for tuning in and going on this little loyalty journey with us.
Ms Chan
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Welcome to Loyalty Unlocked, an AI-driven podcast exploring the creation of yuu Rewards, one of the most ambitious coalition loyalty programs ever launched in Hong Kong. Through expert insights and real-world lessons, we break down the risks, strategies, and innovations behind its success. Whether youâre in marketing, loyalty, or business, tune in to uncover what it takes to build a game-changing program. Intro music by Kabbalistic Village (kabbalisticvillage.com/)
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